Izel: Hello again.
Ilay: Hi. This is better now. Okay.
Ilay: How are you doing?
Izel: great, great, a bit tired, a bit busy.
Izel: what they were thinking about. Right? What about you?
Ilay: same. I was feeling a bit down yesterday, but then, we had, you know, in the UK, we have the Christmas events.
Ilay: we had the office and party with the practice.
Ilay: I had to be an energy tech and good. So it works. I'm feeling better today.
Izel: You know, I just remember every time in such cases, fake it until you make it.
Izel: Nice one.
Ilay: Nice. it's coming to the end of the year.
Ilay: maybe today's topic would be a bit relevant to people who want to make a change.
Ilay: And, we Here Astoria, I guess.
Izel: Right. until now, we had, 5 episodes, about nutrition, different perspectives, and different topics.
Izel: And for this week, I thought maybe we can I can talk more about my journey of nutritional change, which is targeted to, heal my chronic health conditions, that I faced and, part of it may be, it's continuing, but mostly I heal from them?
Ilay:
Izel: I hope it can shed light on, people in Christmas and Hanukkah also in Israel.
Izel: Good time.
Ilay: So some, a little bit more light for the motivation bits.
Izel:
Ilay: how did it all start? what's was your experience in life?
Ilay: So what was happening? And, when did this journey start
Ilay: I mean, the journey start with probably the story starts with it always, you know, in movies, with the issues.
Ilay: and then we move from that. what was happening?
Izel: first of all, I would like to describe how my nutrition was, let's say, from my childhood until the age of 23, 25.
Izel: I would, I would say that it was a sad diet like the Americans say, it is a standard American diet.
Izel: It is called, which means that, it is full of, process food, junk food, and high high in carbohydrates, again, processed carbohydrates, not all foods.
Izel: And, sugar salty and, unhealthy fats.
Izel: there are a lot of vegetables, of course, and fruits especially in Turkey, there are a lot of, most of them.
Izel: I also ate or ate them, but it was the, the minority of my, food choices.
Izel: Especially, during my, adults, not adults, but when I was, in the adolescents, I almost didn't eat any vegetable, maybe 1 or 2 that I really liked.
Izel: And those were deep fried mostly.
Izel: But, mostly I ate, meat and junk food, I would say.
Izel: And, also, I drank a lot of Coca Cola, which is also the subject name of the this episode from Coca Cola to Kombucha.
Izel: So I was drinking at least a liter a day, at the age of my my from 17 up to 23, I guess.
Izel: This is the general.
Ilay: Sure. I guess this is not a sponsored, episode to just mention the name. It's still there.
Izel: it's just, you know, the idol of, unhealthy food, I guess, that you can put in your body.
Izel: So this is my start, of nutritional journey. Which wasn't the best one, I guess.
Izel: So, from so when I was young, at least, I know that there are a lot of also children that have, some sort of, result of their nutrition choices or parents' choices, they're suffering from childhood.
Izel: I I was having from my childhood that I can bring up is that my digestive issues, I held a lot of digestive issues, bloating and, you know, gases, and diarrhea, most of the time.
Izel: And also, I really remember that I has, I had a very weak, immune system.
Izel: Because I I got frequently cold.
Izel: I remember that, I was getting cold every, Monday.
Izel: Starting day of the week, and I was, like, recovering and then the next week again.
Izel: So it's just, I this is what I remember.
Izel: maybe it didn't happen that that way, but I was frequently sick, and this is for sure.
Izel: And that's why also I got a lot of antibiotics and pain killers, which also contributed to my deterioration of my health, gut health and then the chronic health conditions, but it is not the specific topic of this week.
Izel: I would like to focus on the nutrition.
Ilay: I mean, it's It's a lot, isn't it?
Ilay: So when you have all these, negatives without having balancing positives, then it's it's quite a burden for the body.
Ilay: And then, how how did you maybe go forward to realize it could be nutrition?
Ilay: Because I as far as I know, at the time, having these issues, were you thinking or considering that it could be nutrition, or did that come later on?
Izel: Really not I wasn't thinking even, what I was suffering from is that I thought I I didn't think about that
Izel: Maybe that everybody is like that. You know, people people suffer a little from, digestive issues.
Izel: They have a headaches, back aches. I don't know, all sorts of problems.
Izel: So I wasn't aware that my health is not in the best shape, and it is sort of standard, maybe, I thought.
Izel: And I really remember at the age of, I don't know, maybe twenties, I said that a lot of people seem strong and healthy, etcetera.
Izel: So maybe it's not the case for everyone.
Izel: You know, it's just really later on came to my mind that I need to question the facts and that how I feel with my body and health.
Izel: And then at the age of maybe 23, it was also the the year that I moved from Turkey to Israel.
Izel: So I made a big change in my life.
Izel: then I started to think, I guess I need to change my diet in order to, make things better.
Izel: but it wasn't the point that I was suffering a lot.
Izel: It was the the there were things that I was suffering, but it was from childhood.
Izel: So I got used to it, and it was normal for me. Okay.
Izel: This wasn't, really starting point that I really changed my diet.
Izel: But, I don't know how more intentionally, I guess, not really mindfully.
Izel: I said I will quit with Coca Cola. This is the starting point.
Izel: that's why I was also, how do you say it?
Izel: cornerstone, I I would say. I quit it.
Izel: I was also in the kibbutz in Israel, so there wasn't also like the coke, I that I can find it really easily?
Izel: Anyway, I started with that. And then, mostly sugar things and salt, etcetera.
Izel: I just lowered it from my diet. But I wasn't really conscious about what is healthy and nuts.
Izel: And also, this were the time not really, people told it.
Izel: Thought about at least in my surrounding about diet and the, effects of diet on the, especially chronic health conditions.
Izel: Which I wasn't aware also these these were chronic health issues.
Ilay: And, well, I guess when he changed country you live in, you would do some change in diets.
Ilay: Not everybody does it, but, you know, mostly, it's maybe even it's a little bit more comfortable to change because if you try to keep the same diet, it's it's more difficult to find them and buy them someone, and they may not be as, same quality.
Ilay: with that, but I see you had some intention.
Ilay: It wasn't just changing for the sake of changing, but you had some intentions there.
Izel: As I said, it was more intentional that I felt that these things are not really helping me to have a, joyful life, especially in the age of, like, twenties, which is the best should be the best time, and I should feel the most, the the strongest and I don't know, energetic.
Izel: And, I was quite, like, energetic. I was hiking.
Izel: I was, traveling around learning, you know, I had the energy.
Izel: but we I think from the age of twenty five to till the age of thirty, my health condition also deteriorated more and more.
Izel: And, in this time, it's interesting that I got vegetarian.
Izel: Not from the health wise, but mostly ethical, part of it.
Izel: I decided to not eat animal animals. I was eating dairy in that time.
Izel: but this is the one of the most interesting points for me to mention here is that being vegetarian, I think, is wasn't really the damage that I did to myself.
Izel: But, I think one of the classical mistakes that people are doing and also IV did because I wasn't conscious about diet.
Izel: when I was vegetarian, I started to eat a lot of a lot of, carbohydrates, processed foods of, pasta and pastries and things like that.
Izel: And also, daily products, like, cheese, etcetera, instead of meat that I I quit it.
Izel: I think this was really not healthy.
Izel: And not being vegetarian because you can be vegetarian and also choose healthy vegetables, fruits, etcetera, nuts.
Izel: Seats, etcetera. So this was really critical, I guess.
Izel: And, with the age, of course, which shouldn't be the those ages that, the health should literate, but I really started to feel a lot of chronic chronic issues.
Izel: first of all, more than that. My digestive, problems got really worse.
Izel: I got to the point that whatever I put in my mouth, I was reacting, almost instantly with pain and, loading.
Izel: And so I got a food intolerance, which I wasn't aware of the the topic and then.
Izel: And, also, the one of the most, I think hard hardest things that was the fatigue that I felt. I was waking up more tired than before I went to sleep.
Izel: Every morning. And when I was working as an engineer in a factory, at 10 o'clock in the factory in the morning, I was, off I didn't have energy to continue, and it was like, you know, until 5 I was I was there.
Izel: It was really painful. Also, mentally, I couldn't focus.
Izel: it's called brain fog. it it's like it was foggy in my mind.
Izel: I couldn't focus on the things concentrate. And, also, I had memory issues.
Izel: I couldn't remember, like, 6 digitals, just after I just read it.
Izel: which in the, high school, I was remembering maybe 20 pages that I was writing to the exams of in Turkey.
Izel: You know, it's mostly you you remember by heart the things.
Izel: so it was really, really, going down my memory.
Izel: And also my mood, I was feeling really depressed and sad that what's going on in my body that I'm losing my control.
Izel: I wasn't, like, you know, in the bed and I can't walk, etcetera, but all the things that I'm mentioning at the age of twenty five, I think, towards 30, and I was getting married.
Izel: And, you know, I I didn't have child yet, but it was really depressing and not having the energy to just continue.
Izel: And, also, I I was feeling isolated and didn't want to even see my best friends I would like to be in the nature.
Izel: I didn't want to go really out that much, and my wife also suffered from those times.
Izel: That I didn't have the, patience just to go out. So it was really, really hard times.
Ilay: It's it's sound the first promising because you had the, intuition, and then you had some kind of awareness.
Ilay: So, nutrition was in your focus, trying to change something.
Ilay: But then I guess without, at the time, studying or guidance.
Ilay: So it it's changing something doesn't necessarily mean doing into, into shape.
Ilay: that 2 things are also interesting.
Ilay: So one, is that when you don't have the energy, then you've said you've found that depressing.
Ilay: And then that's a vicious cycle downwards.
Ilay: Isn't you don't have the energy, then you find that depressive because you want to have energy, but you don't all those kind of thoughts and feelings, I'm just going towards negative.
Ilay: And the second interesting thing in there is even though you're trying somehow, to the best that, you know, at the time, people surrounding you also get affected by these things.
Ilay: So it's not just about ourselves in these journeys.
Ilay: It's always also about people we love and people who love us. Okay. So what's happened then?
Ilay: Good news. I hope I know what's still
By the way, I have to mention also when you just, take me to those moments, I just felt also the deep inside the sadness, and not knowing what to do with the fact that the people, the most closes people around me, even my wife, really tried to help me, but didn't understand really what's going on because, you know, digestive
Izel: issues and brain fog.
Izel: These are the things that are really not, you know, it's not like you break your leg and everybody can see what's going on.
Izel: Right? It's inside you. And it also makes you think that you just maybe make up those things and this is not real.
Izel: You just question yourself. And then you say, okay. I feel the pain. It's real.
Izel: Doesn't matter if other people see it, understand it, or feel it.
Izel: it's enough that I'm feeling it is all, but it is really hard in that sense too.
Izel: That it's not really clear to other people what's going on with you. Just
Ilay: That's what we do.
Izel: But this is the I think the hardest thing, of for the people that are suffering from chronic conditions because it's very hard to see it from outside.
Izel: The second thing, and now I have to say also that of course, I started my journey to go to the, classical western doctors, that's also didn't understand what's going on, or in the best case, they just wanted to suppress the, symptoms that I had.
Izel: So I'm not just want to going into that topic.
Izel: Maybe people talk about it in other episode, but, just to mention that also even the the the the people supposed to help me professionally couldn't understand or help me really So it was also, depressing.
Izel:
Ilay: But Because especially with the doctors, they're supposed to no understand and fix, isn't it?
Ilay: but when that doesn't happen, that just adds to the frustration.
Izel: On the other hand, it was also the starting point that I was taking the, control of my health in my hand.
Izel: And I just said, okay. I see the situation, and I am not intending, I don't intend to continue my life, especially in the age of thirty, in that way.
Izel: And I know that it's doesn't have to be like that. It's not the everybody's, experiencing in life.
Izel: so I said, okay.
Izel: I will stop and change something This is the starting point that I was like in the, bottom of my, I don't know what to say about patience and etcetera.
Izel: but from there, I started to rise up.
Izel: which doesn't have to be like that for everyone, but for me, it was like that.
Izel: So okay.
Izel: What how I went out from that point, from the, space that I was living which is quite depressive just to, I guess, also listen.
Izel: okay. So I said, okay. I'm vegetarian.
Izel: I did some changes, and I started to really, really research deeply.
Izel: I don't know why, but really from the perspective of nutrition.
Izel: I said I have to change what I'm putting in my body as an input.
Izel: To change the outcome, right, which is my health and energy, etcetera.
Izel: This was my starting point, and I just really, really get into the research, not academically necessarily.
Izel: Sometimes, yes, but also a lot of, resources from the internet, documentaries, etcetera.
Izel: And I really understood after, a while that all the symptoms that I had are bringing me to the, to do cancer, etcetera, big, diseases.
Izel: So I today know and also, understood the before now, that, earlier that I just changed my, I think path towards, spatial, diseases.
Izel: so I started to as I said, research and trial and error a lot of things.
Izel: so I will give some concrete examples, which may be may help other people, as soon as I understood that there's a, direct relationship between the chronic most, maybe all of the chronic health conditions and gut health.
Izel: From the research I did, which is also apparently the sort of new, findings also in the Western Medicine this this relationship may be maximum 20 years.
Izel: I'm not sure it is before then. it was clear.
Izel: but now I think of the people heard about gut health, here and there.
Izel: So as soon as I understood that I need to change my gut health, I started to also research how can I make it better?
Izel: And I, as I said, I did a lot of trial and error to eat stuff and to stop eating stuff, other stuff.
Izel: it was, I think, the most critical ones were the gluten and dairy.
Izel: I stopped, at one point, it is also my character.
Izel: I don't expect from everybody to do that, and then maybe it's also healthy.
Izel: To do that, from the change process perspective, but I just cuts the gluten and dairy And I think from that point, I started to feel better because, those 2 were adding to my, symptoms every day.
Izel: and afterwards, I started to lower most of my sugar intake, during the years.
Izel: And also, I added a lot of things like probiotics, which are the good good bacterias that we need in our body, to help my digestion, some digestive enzyme, the supplements I'm talking about.
Izel: And also from the foods, like, fermented foods, which is also part of it is the kombucha.
Izel: This is the subject of, of the topic today from Coca Cola to Kombucha, which is like both of them are drink of, gas with how we call it.
Izel: Sparkling feeling, but totally 2 different directions because Coca Cola, I I guess the worst thing that you can drink and one of the worst things for your health and also Kombucha is healthy one.
Izel: If it's made well, of course, which has probiotics, in it because it's a fermented drink, and it creates, in the fermentation process, all the probiotics, a lot of probiotics that you need.
Izel: so gluten and dairy were the main things.
Izel: I felt more and more, more comfortable with the foods that I'm eating and not directly getting affected by them by bloating and, really strong, abdominal pains.
Izel: It was lowering. So it was giving me motivation and energy because because I wasn't I couldn't digest the food.
Izel: Most of my energy was going to the digestion. Which I couldn't do.
Izel: And, also, I lost my energy because of that.
Izel: So when I could digest the foods and better foods are coming into my body, and not disturbing me, I had my energy, instead of digesting the food for other stuff.
Izel: my motivation rise up I could work.
Izel: I could also focus mental clarity, started to came back, and also motivation to see other people because I had the energy at the weekend instead of just lying down and trying to recover from the week that I talked about.
Izel: That's like, as an engineer in the factory, he just losing my energy at 10 o'clock in the morning.
Izel: It was very hard. So that's why at the weekend.
Izel: I didn't have the energy to go out with friends, etcetera. So everything was just changing.
Izel: But still, all the things that I was doing, I think it took at least 3, 4 years, all the process that I'm talking about.
Izel: And the, the speed that, the the healing speed wasn't really I I don't want to say good enough because it's really, changes from person to person, but I just feel I I was I was feeling that it isn't really the right in the right, speed or, the process wasn't really going well.
Izel: this is what I I felt.
Ilay: So when you say this, you mean, when you made these changes like gluten free diets and and so on.
Ilay: And, So they were free.
Ilay: So even though you could realize the differences, it took months if not the years before you could kind of almost see the changes in your life.
Ilay: is that what you mean? Or
Izel: Yes. Exactly. The the, the changing process was very, very slow. And
Ilay: So with the knowledge you have now. So what what what would you say?
Ilay: So if there is this kind of elimination of a part of a diet like this.
Ilay: If it is affecting you in different ways, would you, kind of expect to set see any changes, in couple of months, 6 months, a year, so Do you have the number to kind of compare now or
Izel: I I I will explain in this way.
Izel: as part of my research, I got familiar with the functional medicine.
Izel: which is also Western medicine, but it is focusing on the root cause of the illnesses and mostly dealing with the chronic health conditions, which I was suffering from.
Izel: So from functional medicine perspective and all the testimonials from the people that are healing themselves through the functional medicine approach.
Izel: I saw that it it is saying, like, healing the gut is not 1 day, 2 days a week.
Izel: It's for sure, but it should be a couple of months and not years.
Izel: It can take years to be in the best, version of yourself from the gut wise.
Izel: But in a couple of months, you need to feel much more better.
Izel: So this is why I'm also the, comparison points to my reality.
Izel: then I started to see, okay, I'm doing almost most of the things there's the functional medicine is giving, but the results are not in the same, speed.
Izel: that's why I just started to understand and a bit deep dive more what functional medicine can, give me.
Izel: A little bit more research and reading.
Izel: And then, my answer to the question that what's really changed my healing process and make it much quicker, is that I was doing the right things mostly, not all the time, but not in the right order.
Izel: so I will give you an example also explanation of the functional medicine to heal the gut.
Izel: I'm taking the healing the gut, the center because of the, this is the central, I think intervention that you can do in order to get rid of your chronic health conditions.
Izel: So the functional medicine, in short, is giving 5 r formula for the gut healing, which are, removing, replacing, reonculating, repairing, and rebalancing.
Izel: What I mean with that is, first of all, you need to remove the things that are bothering you, causing you sensitivity or intolerance to the foods, which are mostly the processed foods, mostly the gluten, diarrhea, etcetera, which I did, but not, not the first thing it was, but with the time I did it.
Izel: But if there is a better way to, to experience what is bothering you, it because it's not just all the time, dairy or gluten, there are a lot of things that can bother you.
Izel: Also, even some, healthy stuff can bother you.
Izel: in depends what is your, status. Okay.
Izel: So, in short, removing, the best way I see is the elimination diet.
Izel: Maybe you heard of it or the people here are heard of that.
Izel: If not, elimination diet is us, a frame of, time.
Izel: Just say a couple of weeks up until a month, that you, eliminate, most of the allergen allergen foods that known to the human body, scientifically.
Izel: It can it it it I I'm not getting into this a lot, into this maybe we can talk just about elimination diet in a one episode.
Izel: but the main thing is just to take the things that might make you, intolerant to the food.
Izel: And when you take them out, your system gets a little bit calmer.
Izel: Okay, to heal because in order to heal, you need to, calm your system.
defense mechanisms, etcetera. So then you need to replace it with mostly digestive enzymes and which can help your stomach, which I, didn't do in my journey, which was the, I think, the the most critical point, I wasn't aware that my stomach cannot, produce enough acid in order to start the digestion of
Izel: the food.
Izel: So that's why it doesn't matter how much probiotic you take the fiber food you eat They can make it even worse because you cannot digest also all the those foods, healthy foods like vegetables.
Izel: Okay. So it was making me more bloating.
Izel: Also probiotic making me more bloated that I wasn't aware of it. So that's why I was questioning myself.
Izel: I'm eating all the healthy stuff, but still I have the bloating.
Izel: How can it So this is the point because my stomach was also not in the best condition.
Izel: I I should have condition it first.
Izel: So that's why the l the end, digestive enzymes are helping a lot, their Swedish bidders, a lot of natural stuff I'm talking about.
Ilay: Or is it something? Then do you re with replacement, do you specifically mean the enzymes for digestion, or could these irritants be replaced by something else.
Ilay: So is it like 1 to 1 relationship, or is it just an overall replacement of was bothering you to something that would help?
Izel: Yes. not not general, but specifically digestive enzymes your hydrochloric acid and bile production of your body, pancreas, etcetera.
Izel: These all are the, stuff that you help to digest the food.
Izel: If you don't break them down and digest, you cannot take the nutrition because I couldn't digest them.
Izel: I also couldn't get the good nutrition from those good foods.
Izel: So it doesn't matter how how much you eat, the healthy stuff. You cannot intake it, absorb it.
Izel: that's why I think it was a critical point that I, stepped today, I I would quote, skipped.
Izel: Okay. So then reoncolation means, to add the stuff like the probiotics, prebiotics that we talked also in the previous episodes.
Izel: Good bacteria and the food of them like the fiber foods. Okay.
Izel: So which I did it before I could digest them. So that's why I have that loading stuff ongoing.
Izel: And also I couldn't take the nutrition from them.
Izel: And then you go to the repair, which can you take, I don't know if you are familiar with, bone broth and the collagen and glutamine a lot of stuff that can specifically repair your gut lining.
Izel: We talked about leaky guts, right? Your guts gets leaky.
Izel: And the old, toxins go through the, your gut lining.
Izel: So you started to build a better gut lining through those stuff. this is the repair stage.
Izel: And at the final stage, you rebalance.
Izel: A rebalance stage functional medicine sees as as the older other lifestyle interventions other than the nutrition, like, stress management, sleep movement that we are talking about.
Izel: Not in this, maybe specifically in this series and episodes because we, concentrate on the nutrition.
Izel: But, it's a part of your lifestyle that we, deal with, all the relationships and the, they call also adult play like playtime for adults that we are skipping most of the time in our lives.
Izel: If you, put them back in your life, It's also the final stage to go, towards, healthier gut only I'm talking about not general health and wellness.
Izel: In order to feel, to heal your gut, you need to have these also other, components of the lifestyle.
Ilay: So rebalancing, the lifestyle is, with a focus on healing the guts in this case.
Ilay: So it's it's, interesting approach. Nice.
Izel: so I just want to, after, explaining this healing the guts story, I think this is really the center of my story, like healing my guts.
Izel: Rebalancing it. Let's call it.
Izel: really gave me the opportunity to deal with my chronic conditions in even I think, I don't like to say get rid of it, but, to just really heal from them.
Izel: And today, I really, have the energy to be father of 2, this in these 2 weeks, that we, have the birth.
Izel: second child and, enjoy my family and friends at the weekends and not just working as an engineer also at the nighttime.
Ilay: I'm
Izel: working as a a health coach and preparing this stuff. And reads, etcetera.
Izel: So I have much more energy.
Izel: my digestive issues, lowered in that sense that I just, like, a week ago, when we celebrate this, my second child's, birth, I ate in the same day.
Izel: They re gluten, sugar, everything. And I really didn't have any sort of, discomfort which was really interesting because I expected a sort of, a a level of, discomfort, but I hadn't.
Izel: So it was really surprise me, but I really feel proud of myself, first of all.
Izel: And, also, I'm really thankful to the functional medicine.
Izel: And this is the my journey that I came to the point of, like, feeling much more better.
Izel: Still, I have, chronic pains etcetera, I'm not in my best, best shape, which takes time and also not just nutrition, I guess, which we will talk maybe later on the stress reduction and, you know, emotional and mental health, etcetera, all the things like positive psychology.
Izel: I have my way to go, of course.
Izel: But I feel really, day and night difference after this journey.
Izel: And today, I mostly eat, vegetables, fruits a little bit.
Izel: Meat as much as clean meat, not processed, and nuts and seeds a lot.
Izel: fermented foods like kombucha and drinking, coconut water, all the things that I know that they are helping to keep my gut healthy and also the other, components of my life.
Izel: and I really pay attention to my, like, sleep, quality, and, getting into the nature, being with my friends, and family,
Izel: Stress reduction with, and also movement, through yoga, a little that is all the things that I'm, that I added to my life throughout the years of my healing journey.
Izel: That's it.
Ilay: So it was worth going through the, maybe, slightly difficult, times in this journey.
Ilay: I will say maybe specifically the elimination bits.
Izel:
Ilay: And, so I have one question. There are two questions
Ilay: 1, is there a blood test, instead of doing the elimination diets?
Ilay: Why I'm asking that is some of our listeners may may not want to do any diets or they want they may not want to cut off something that may not be disturbing them or they may not be sensitive to.
Ilay: is that an option? Or anyhow, is it better to do the elimination diets by itself.
Ilay: because I think that's the key bits in the whole journey.
Ilay: So instead of, like, shooting in dark, You go after that with personalized data, and then you have a clear plan.
Ilay: What to do next? So you introduce them slowly. And then you get to know what was the issue.
Ilay: so as you said, that's my is the first step. That's, the key step.
Ilay: while trying to get a shortcut from you, it's great to hear also that at the end, It was all worthwhile.
Ilay: because, again, it's not just you. No. It's not just you and your wife.
Ilay: But now 22 kits, within the equation.
Ilay: So, the effects, that I mentioned is growing and growing further and further.
Ilay: And it's very nice to hear that it's on a positive, It's not.
Izel: No. No. First of all, the, quick answer is yes.
Izel: There is there are, some tests.
Izel: Some of them are blood, blood tests, and urine tests, and also the, test from your, hair.
Izel: That are taking. There are a lot of, advanced, tests that you can do through functional medicine which I did also with the help of a functional medicine practitioner in Israel that I found.
Izel: I I was knowing the tests.
Izel: That's also my health coaching, education was from Functional Medicine Institute. So I learned of them also.
Izel: I am not practicing it. But I learned of them.
Izel: And, also, I, knew which test to do, but I still went to a practitioner just to make it in a order that I did my mistake previous slide that told me and I don't didn't want to skip again other stuff.
Izel: So I worked with a functionality practitioner, which gave me, those tests, which the the critical one, there are a lot of, tests according to your, of course, needs.
Izel: But in my case, was there there is a, a test that is testing your, and we call it fecal.
Izel: Mhmm. they they they are taking, part of your vehicle.
Izel: Sample, and testing all your bacterias parasites that you have in your vehicle and all the, fungus if you have that I did didn't wasn't aware of.
Izel: A lot of things and also metabolites and also the toxic things that you have.
Izel: there's analysis the really detailed analysis of your, gut health,
Izel: This translates to gut health and also all the inflammation levels, that you have.
Izel: So these tests are really, really helping to pinpoint your, issues, like if it's inflammation, if it's other stuff toxicity, hard metal toxicity, it can be or a mold in your body, mycotoxins that's the the other, outcome from the molds that are toxic to your body.
Izel: you can find found out that you never imagined that you can have it from a regular, medic medical medical tests, that we are having at least in Israel and Turkey, I know.
Izel: And also, I'm not sure in any country there is a on that test that can give you such extent, measure of, your blood health and also condition as, like, chronic conditions.
Izel: This is one of them.
Izel: Also, there are a lot of, advanced hormonal tests, which if you need them, and, also, hard metal tests, mold tests, in addition to the, your gut test.
Izel: So, yes, there are tests. They can help you.
Izel: but I have to say that my gut feeling, maybe, that still I feel to do the, elimination diet or some sort of it.
Izel: I did it, an advanced much more advanced than that one through the my practitioner gave me.
Izel: It was auto immune, elimination diet, sorry, autoimmune, paleo diet, which is really close to elimination,
Izel: I think it gives you, several things.
Izel: First of all, if you really try it and do it in a month, first of all, you see that you have the power to change your diet or anything you try.
Izel: This is power. Second thing, when you see the results and sometimes direct results.
Izel: If you have really stronger, symptoms, mostly you'll see any change relief from those symptoms.
Izel: This gives you the motivation to continue.
Izel: The tests are good to see, wow, how much, fungus I have in my body or parasites or toxicity.
Izel: But it's still the numbers. It's not the feeling.
Izel: But if you feel the relief from the symptom, especially chronic symptoms that you feel every day, day and night.
Izel: So this is something else. And that's why I still feel the needs and, to, I don't know, to, share with people that it's a good idea to try something that you can feel the results, not just, data.
Izel: You get from. I'm not saying not to do.
Izel: I did both, but these are 2 different things that you need to consider, I guess.
Ilay: That was a very good explanation. Yes. Thank you. And makes sense.
Ilay: It's, especially what you mentioned about power and automation to go forward.
Ilay: It makes the it makes all the difference.
Ilay: and the second thing I got from your story is also that, even though if you kind of know who towards which direction you you should be going, in one part of the journey, some improvements happened in, like, what, in a decade, 10 years.
Ilay: Whereas then you fast forward, you focus a little bit more on the direction and with support.
Ilay: And then you made it maybe in 2 years, you made maybe 5 times more or 10 times more progression.
Ilay: so that's really interesting because even though doing it alone feels quite good, but it's more difficult.
Ilay: if you can have the support to make it shorter so that you don't drain your energy by trying to motivate yourself to go forward with less improvements per time.
Ilay: Instead, maybe reach there quicker and enjoy life a little bit more.
Ilay: So that's the importance of support that, caught my intent, interest.
Ilay: So do you have anything to kind of discuss that?
Ilay: So is that is this also how you felt? Is this
Izel: Exactly. reality?
Izel: 10 years ago, I didn't hear about gut health, not functional medicine, no health coaching, and nothing.
Izel: you know, just reading things and getting into the, like, also while I was reading, there are new research about the topic.
Izel: So it was really really new.
Izel: and I was one of the testimonials, of the this research and, clinical work.
Izel: So, yes, exactly. I if someone would say 15 years ago, okay, you had these conditions And probably it will go in this direction, and you have the option to work with a functional manager, someone that can, address the root cause and help you to go through it.
Izel: I definitely would work with it, him or her, but I have to say, just one point that, it can be a consideration, but still it doesn't mean that you cannot get help.
Izel: functional medicine, I think one of the hard things about it is, like, the all the tests that we talked and also, like, the
Izel: Mainly the tests that you are doing advanced tests are still a little bit, pricey.
Izel: it's, not easy and reachable to everybody.
Izel: but still, as I said, through the elimination diet and, your personal interventions and also maybe just to work with, not health coach, of course, only, but, neat good nutritionists.
Izel: Or, someone can really help to support you in this journey, with addressing the root causes and the gut health, etcetera.
Izel: which doesn't have to be a fortune. I think it's worth it.
Izel: And today, because there are a lot of people as be work in this field and start to work, it will be more reachable for other people to than 15 years ago, I guess.
Izel: And also the tests will be a cheaper, if people are, will do it more and more.
Izel: It's Definitely.
Ilay: Everyone had their own economic status and their approach.
Ilay: one thing we could, you know, I also did a little business coaching.
Ilay: The the key point there is the word, the value. So it's not just the price tag.
Ilay: What does it bring to your life, your quality of life, and so on, even for the test of coaching, whatever we are talking about, or car or food, organic food.
Ilay: so it's if you just look at the price tag, you might have a preconception of what what it is, like, it's a lot or too little.
Ilay: But when you think about long term benefit, and what you could be spending on, to fix a cheaper thing could be doing or not investing in, certain product or service.
Ilay: Could do, then, you know, just spending a little bit of calories on in the brain to to kind of, evaluate that then if you see any value, that's a good investment.
Ilay: If not, obviously, then it's not the time or it's not for you. So, obviously, that's discussable.
Ilay: to be honest, I think it's also very, nice because you're doing this, half coaching professionally now.
Ilay: because one, I see that you can help people in the way that you didn't receive help.
Ilay: In the beginning of this journey for a very long time.
Ilay: 2nd thing that's, really good is if anyone wants to be health coach.
Ilay: Obviously, they could research into a lot of things and learn and do the courses and the certification like you did.
Ilay: But then having that background of issues, personal symptoms always makes you go deeper.
Ilay: And then most probably also remember more. So studying is not alone, enough.
Ilay: You need to remember and bring it to practice and and see the signs and, you know, make connections between what you read and what's happening if you're coaching or it's whether it's, for yourself.
Ilay: so it's great to see that you have, walked the talk and you have done what was needed to be done.
Ilay: And it's great to see that you are helping, people through their journeys, with nutrition and other stuff, obviously, today and for the last few episodes.
Ilay: We focused on the nutrition bits, but there's much more, you support people with. So that's really great.
Izel: Thank you. you talked about the value.
Izel: I think there's no other thing that more value will as a person that I felt that feelings of being lonely and isolated from the from the standpoint of, nobody understands me and see me, see what's going on.
Izel: So doesn't they don't see me, What's going on inside me.
Izel: so really, of not only, but specifically a health coach, I think really in the job of the health coach is to be with the person, feel him or her and just walk with him and her.
Izel: And especially, I see as a now, as a advantage of me, that I went through these health conditions, just to be naturally more empathetic to understand people who suffer from chronic conditions, which is not visible most of the time to the other people around you.
Izel: Yes. This is a fortune for me, to have the value, to help people, and understand them, and, to be with them, to listen to that
Ilay: closely. With that, I'm hoping that this won't, sound to sales pitch.
But because of the example and your you gave and also your experience, when people are feeling down and depressed about the problems they are having, it's really difficult sometimes to take the first step And when you're listening to the whole journey, sometimes it's it's a lot from elimination diet to other stuff and supplements and
Ilay: so on.
Ilay: if, anyone who's, listening to this and feeling anything close to that, if I could suggest to have maybe the free discovery call with, these are so that you don't need to decide on anything.
Ilay: You don't need to do anything at this moment.
Ilay: Just except for booking at a point when, just to have a chat, just to see if there's any way, corax can help you.
Ilay: And then to see if there's any value in spending more time with this or changing your life or any habits, or not.
Ilay: so very small, energy needed for that.
Ilay: Hopefully, for anyone who is who would benefit from that can do that.
Ilay: And, thank you for a great chat, as always.
Ilay: Next week, again, at the same time, we will be here.
Ilay: I'm, really, I have also as your brother now.
Ilay: have deep emotions listening all all the story, and I'm really happy that you are even though you said you are not yet your best version of yourself, but you are, best version of yourself yet.
Ilay: so that's that's really good.
Ilay: So as long as we are improving in different, areas of our lives, but then life is better to live, isn't it?
Izel: Thank you very much, really.
Izel: It's, of course, the, support circle of me, including you mostly, it's really important to feel and find the power to continue in everyone's journey, of course, and also mine.
Izel: And also, I have to say as a health coach that my intention is to help people that need the help which means which, I can do a discovery with a person, discovery call, which is free by the way, of course.
Izel: And then we can see both of us that a purse this person can do it by himself or herself, the way I can support here and there just given information, but coaching is not about the information.
Izel: So I prefer not to work with a person who doesn't need me.
Izel: And I prefer to work with the people really need me to just to be and do the steps together and support, along the way.
Izel: So this is also my standpoint and, how I feel about it.
Ilay: Perfect. And I know this support is coming from your that's very important. Hopefully others can see that.
Ilay: too. Okay. So enjoy your rest of your evening. thank you.
Ilay: See you live again next week.
Izel: Thanks for joining us, everybody. And I hope you enjoyed it. Something that was valuable for you.
Izel: Thank you. Bye. Bye.
