Ilay: Hello.
Izel: Hi.
Ilay: How are you doing?
Izel: Fine. Great. Thank you. How are you? Good. Good. Good. Yeah.
Izel: Good to see you.
Ilay: Yes.
Izel: how his life since last week. Yeah. Yeah.
Izel: we are expecting for our second child. And I know. Yeah. Yeah.
Izel: So, it's excited, and, I hope it will be a real receiving, we will, have the work in a healthy way.
Ilay: Yes. You know how they say you can prepare, but you cannot get ready for it.
Ilay: So Yeah.
Izel: Yeah. What's up? Yes. What? What's Yep. Good week. Yes.
Ilay: Yes. It was a bit busy. I was just traveling Actually, I'm in Slovenia now.
Ilay: Just got into the hotel room and made it. There were some delays. Other than that, good.
Ilay: Yes. talking with people, helping people fulfill their dreams and, also, you know, doing dentistry in that sense also.
Ilay: It's it's really nice. yeah, everything for long, balanced.
Ilay: lot of the time to slow down and relax a little bit.
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Izel: I'm glad that you made it.
Ilay: Yeah. Thank you. What are we talking about today?
Izel: Yes. Sorry. I just had a hello everyone. Yeah. we're also glad that you are here.
Izel: You've joined us. So, actually, this is our 3rd episode of, healthy lifestyle con conversations.
Izel: So this week, I just wanted to talk about, our gut health and what's all about gut and why we should take care of our gut.
Ilay: Yeah. This is It's the a nice continuation, isn't it?
Ilay: So we started with the healthy habits for eating and drinking water nutrition wise.
Ilay: And then we talked about some emotions and healthy, eating in the emotional sense and making some changes.
Ilay: So, it all ties down to the gut end because when we have the food in, that's the first step to interact.
Ilay: So maybe within the mind and then physically, and then what's happening. So, let's hear.
Izel: 1st of all, I would like to be to mention about what is gut because it's also not, always clear.
Izel: sometimes, people refer to only our intestines a small a standard large investment.
Izel: but also it is, referred as a GI, digestive system, gastro- intestinal systems, which which includes actually, all our organs from our mouth goes to,
Ilay: Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Yeah.
Izel: Please take the food there actually in just it's from our mouth to to our stomach.
Izel: our stomach is also is part of the GI system.
Izel: And then our intestines and the rectum And then we, take out the, things that we don't need from the food.
Izel: Out. So this whole system, also is referred as our gut.
Izel: this is what I want to say, but sometimes just meant the our intestines.
Izel: and also got this, responsible, to digest and also absorb the nutritions.
Izel: This is the main, idea and the, of the gut and also expel what we don't need from the body, which is also very important, actually, also.
Ilay: Yeah. In the the first step of detoxification, probably, is not to get the toxins in.
Ilay: So, obviously, that's that's a good defense system. Yeah.
Izel: Actually, when I see is that the our gut, also in not just, digesting and absorption, And, also, it depends the maybe not first, but it it depends how we look at it.
Izel: As we said, it start from mouth or not.
Izel: But, anyway, it is our barrier from out from outside world and our inside world.
Izel: It is just the barrier because when we get the foot from outside world to our body to absorb it.
Izel: this is the first, defense line and also, where it where the, connection happens.
Izel: And so it is also when you think about that, like, like, long tube start from off, a month, to our rectum that we, expel the food that we don't need.
Izel: So it's just all the way down there.
Izel: Is the, our barrier, actually, because not always, we receive from outside work, the good things and the good food.
Izel: And there are a lot of tax toxins in our modern world. So this is also defense line.
Ilay: Yeah. There's some discussion actually isn't there.
Ilay: So, saying maybe even the, the GI, the gastrointestinal system, is actually still the outside because it has two holes opening to the outside and it's a and it's a tube.
Ilay: so that's where the interaction is throughout the the tracked.
Izel: Yeah. Actually, we always traditionally, or I don't know, like, my intuition.
Izel: I I don't know about how to say it, but we think about the scheme is the guard system from outside.
Izel: But it has also sort of skin ins. We have skin insights, throughout our gut, actually.
Izel: It is very can be similar in that way to think about?
Ilay: Just one note there, which is not really thought of in general.
Ilay: Nothing to do with this, but the other similarity with the skin is, skin is also considered to be a barrier but many people forget that it's also absorbing just like the gut, actually.
Ilay: So whatever we put on our skin, doesn't just stay there. Obviously, we know the especially sunscreens.
Ilay: It's another whole topic to discuss.
Ilay: but because we put a lot of it on our then the absorption is a lot more.
Ilay: So there are quite a bit of similarities, defense mechanism, and also absorption, selective absorption. Yeah.
Izel: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. so when we think about our guts, as a also defense mechanism, maybe, but also the way that we absorb things from the foods that we get in our body or the liquids So it has a very crucial role already that we can understand.
Izel: But, on the other hand, I would like to mention some the very, I think, interesting facts about our gut.
Izel: so first of all, which which answers why we should take care of our gut and gut health.
Izel: first of all, interesting one of the interesting facts is, which is fascinating for me, like, almost like 100% like 99.9% of the hue DNA of the humans are exactly the same.
Izel: So we are saying that everybody is different, and we have different lives and conditions and health wise, there's also a lot of character, etcetera.
Izel: But from the DNA standpoint, we are almost the same.
Izel: The rest of it is the bacteria and the viruses, etcetera, that we have in our body that we are are host of them.
Izel: Like, they are living on in our system. And which is also a question like who is hosting who?
Izel: Because they are outnumbering us actually in a in their, genes.
Izel: That our number of genes are, like, the the the genes of the bacteria that we have in our system, is 100 up to 150 times more than the, human genes that we have.
Izel: That's only human. So this is the relationship between us and the microbiome that we talked in the earlier episodes that maybe we can have another episode only on the microbiome, which is fascinating, I think.
Izel: When we are I refer to microbiome is that the old, bacteria in the viruses and microorganisms that live in our body which are actually not human.
Izel: There are other creatures. so this is the first of the thing.
Izel: Why it's important because we have, like, more than 20, I think, different hormones.
Izel: In our body that are produced in our gut.
Izel: and the most maybe the critical ones are the serotonin and the melatonin, which is serotonin.
Izel: It's called, like, the, happiness hormone.
Izel: Like, our mood is depends on this hormone, and also melatonin is, sleep hormone, right, So our directly, we can see the collection of our brain health and the gut health because of the, production of these hormones 90 to 95% of the serotonin is produced in our gut.
Izel: So if you don't have a a healthy gut, we cannot produce it, in that manner, and then we can have, like, the problems of the mood it can go up to anxiety.
Izel: so there's a direct relationship between our brain and the gut.
Izel: This is one of the facts which is, I think, known for the last 10, maybe 15 years, that is very critical that our mental health depends on or at least have a real strong connection with our
Ilay: Yeah. It's a very fascinating topic also because I had, normally, of course, in our trainings and and the lectures we listen to and so on.
Ilay: We always hear about these. and we see some studies that's, like, shown as examples and so on.
Ilay: But I did, a bit dive into this topic actually for a friend who was suffering some mental issues.
Ilay: And I know I knew from, historically, she always had gut issues.
Ilay: So I just wanted to check before she started with any medication which was, prescribed an offer by the doctors.
Ilay: if there could be anything, and which I could actually scientifically show that there was this connection, and there are loads and loads of snuggies.
Ilay: and top net is the main, website if anybody is interested in more scientific stuff.
Ilay: What are the keywords you put in?
Ilay: You will see all the research than around the world, high quality research, not all of them, but high quality ones.
Ilay: We got selected the filters there, scientific the filter.
Ilay: so it's it's really fascinating seeing also loads of case studies where people get much better mental health just changing their diet.
Ilay: obviously, there's a holistic approach, right, lifestyle changes in in different, pillars as we talk about them.
Ilay: But even just change the industry because that was the topic of the study, for example, a few of them I read there was very, very successful results.
Ilay: So it's it's, scientific proven that it's it's the the connection.
Izel: Yeah. Thank you.
Izel: and, also, I would like to add that there are 2 connections actually to our mental head.
Izel: If we start to talk about that, I can just add one more thing.
Izel: It's not just that the hormones that we need for our mental health that can be, disrupted because of, poor health of the gut.
Izel: Also, I mentioned it also earlier, which is called a leaky gut or intestinal permeability.
Izel: So if we if we have a poor digestion and poor, and nutrition, and also toxic foods or environment, which can also, at the end, can harm our lining, gut lining, and then the toxins can come into the from this barrier that we call from defense line.
Izel: And go through through our, in blood, circulation directly to our brain.
Izel: And due to damage also to our brain and the, mental health.
Izel: So it's not just not producing the hormones or getting the enough nutrition.
Izel: It's also just getting through the barrier of the gut lining.
Izel: The toxins can go up to the brain and do the damage.
Izel: So this is two sides of the, connection to our brain health and mental health.
Ilay: Yeah. I I always thought when they said before, I mean, when I was younger, let's say, when they said, you are what you eat.
Ilay: I thought it was more of a philosophical approach and explanation. But it's it's really physical.
Ilay: So it's all all of the sales, all of the parts of our any system and so on are made.
Ilay: Through the stuff, let's say, that we get from our food, including these, side products, like toxins and chemicals they're not organic and so on, if they're not cleaned well or sometimes they're inside the food anyway.
Ilay: so if you imagine you black certain in, And if you like melatonin, so if you're not really as happy as you could be, if you're not sleeping as well as you could have me in sleeping, if you EA may be better.
Ilay: Then that's also your character. So it's not just physically how we build our body, but this was, like, who we are.
Ilay: So it's really, really, very simple, but deep sentence. Yeah.
Izel: Yeah. Exactly. So this is the, connection to our mental health and brain, of the gut.
Izel: And also another very, I think, interesting point is that, up to 80% of the immune system, our immune system is lives, lives, lives in in our gut, which means is that the first is also when I set the defense line, So, literally, the cells of the immune system are also in the guts 80%.
Izel: So if you have, again, unhealthy gut, which means also your immune system is already disrupted.
And, also, there are really, really strong connection between Also, the leaky gut, but we told that when you have the, aligning, damage in the gut, So, you can start to have some conditions of auto immune conditions, from the, implementation that you get, and also, full
Izel: reactions can start, all the all all sorts of autoimmune diseases can also build in your body, which means, like, the your, immune system, is addressing your, cells, and also, which creates also damage to itself.
So which can be go to the really, like, dangerous points to your on your health, but also before you came to that point, also, you can be just much more likely to get sick and affect it from your from the infections or other things like the cold flu, influenza, all of the things can also, can affect you much more
Izel: easily than the person that has a much better gut health.
Ilay: Yeah. So the inflammation there is very, very, important.
Ilay: And it's interesting that all this is in the Western, medical world is maybe gaining importance in the last, maybe, 15, 20 years.
Ilay: So because of my background, again, in dentists, the specific, they'll actually gum health.
Ilay: And gum disease, is also first infection than inflammatory disease.
Ilay: And then, again, loads of studies showing the interaction between that.
Ilay: So if we think the gut is also connected to the comes and the the microbiome we have there.
Ilay: now it's an accepted, it has accepted interactions with heart disease, Alzheimer's, and other bank brain conditions.
Ilay: Kidney conditions, lung conditions, early ending of pregnancy and low birth, weight for the babies.
Ilay: So if
Izel: you think
Ilay: about the area in centimeters squares, how much the gum is and the gut is then you can easily, kind of estimate the effect of inflammation actually on the guts.
Ilay: I think the correct comparison is if you open the fall gut because it's all has these, falls inside, if you opened it up for a single person, the gut area would be about a tennis courts, size.
Ilay: So if you compare it to and the I think, the root areas would be probably maybe less than a small table.
Ilay: Yeah. There's ability to also have some thoughts and stuff.
Ilay: And one very important information about chronic inflammation is that it doesn't stay local.
Ilay: So that's how it gets, into the other organs and causes problems.
Ilay: And a small, maybe information about influence and so on with, especially, COVID.
Ilay: We know how the situation gets worse is when they call the cytokine storm, which is actually a very high level of inflammation.
Ilay: And there were people who got really badly affected who were obese or had heart attacks or heart disease.
Ilay: We threw shown to be the highest risk with obesity. And these 3 are inflammatory symptoms, actually.
Ilay: They're all inflammation of different systems. with obesity, there is inflammation on the fats, and and cardiovascular system.
Ilay: With diabetes. So it's it's a general inflammation.
Ilay: So even though they didn't have that, they suddenly had a very serious disease.
Ilay: And one thing people didn't look at in in public is what they ate those people, family, friends, and so on.
Ilay: So they they were having difficulty understanding what happened.
Ilay: And if there's inflammation there, and then this immune attack, obviously causes, caused a lot of problems for those patients.
Ilay: People.
Izel: Thank you.
Izel: Well, actually, when I said that there are interesting facts that I talked mainly about, like, connection between our gut and, brain and mental health.
Izel: also, like, the immune, our immune system or mono system we mentioned.
Izel: And, also, there's a very, very strong connection between our gap and our, and nervous system.
Izel: so we mentioned also the, or your episodes that our inside our gut there I think, like roughly a 100,000,000 nerve cells, which, build and their nervous system.
Izel: And also all those nerves, are combined through our vagus nerve.
Izel: Which is the longest nerve in our body.
Izel: also the vagus in Latin means like the wandering nerve it is cold because it's really good starts from our brain and goes to almost all our internal organs.
Izel: And this vagus nerve is getting 9 signals from our guts to our brain, then 1 to 1 single signal from our brain to our guts.
Izel: So this is nine times more signals are going from our guts directly to our brain.
Izel: So this is very, very center central, in our, nervous system out of the signals of the gut.
Izel: So that's why also, in the, I don't know, maybe 10 years or 15 years, the guts is called also our second brain.
Izel: And some of, people are saying also it's the actual the first brain.
Izel: Because the the 9 to 1 ratio and the the, the effects of the gut on our nervous system.
Izel: So our almost our gut is related to all our systems, and the the very critical ones like nervous immune and the hormonal systems.
Izel: That is just a summary of the why if you are not still sure why to you to keep your gut healthy.
Izel: And so these are the connections that it has a very crucial role in our health.
Izel: Yeah.
Izel: so I just want to give one more point, which is actually for me, it was like eye opening.
Izel: so I I would like to give this, share this with, with our, community see here.
Izel: so there is a a I don't want to get really into it, but I just, as a idea, So there is a, I I guess that some of you also heard about, Louis Pasteur, which was and very, very famous about, like, customizing the foods, right, the, especially the milk products, etcetera.
Izel: So he was a very famous, canvases, I think, and he just found the, technique of the past rising bit because of that.
Izel: We have the name. From his his surname, but he had the theory, which is called germ theory.
Izel: So he said that we have, like, germs, the bacteria as viruses, etcetera, mold, in our outside world, in the environment.
Izel: and also, and and the germ territory says in very short that we need and if we want to keep ourselves healthy, we need to get, read of the bacterias, bad bacterias, or just get away from it.
Izel: So from that, like, the, theory and the all the things behind that, I also, was growing up in such a a home that the all the bacterias are the enemies, and we need to clean them with all the chemical cleaners and the house should be very steric.
Izel: And this one, the, what we got to the our households, without, really understanding the relationship between the bacterias and the human beings.
Izel: In the beginning of the, our conversation, I said, there are a lot of bacterias, good bacterias, and also they help the production of our hormones.
Izel: So without that, those, bacterias, we cannot actually really live.
Izel: so we need to have the proportion.
Izel: So then, there's another chemistry, I think, that had the, host theory, okay, against the germ theory.
Izel: Holstery says that we are the host of all, big world of the microorganisms are to pick the bacteria.
Izel: So we shouldn't really focus on the germs and to a way to get them away from us to be healthy.
Izel: Instead of that, we need to keep ourselves strong and resilient because, the healthy person and unhealthy person, both of them have bad bacteria, the jurors.
Izel: Doesn't matter. But who is healthy is not, related to that, actually, but how he deals with that those bacterias and how much of the good bacterias versus, bad bacterias the person has.
Izel: So in the end, I'm trying just to say that I think we shouldn't be afraid of the old bacterias in the outside world of journeys.
Izel: But focused on our resilience and health and immune system, which is true also again, the foods and the environment.
Izel: And help the lifestyle.
Ilay: Yeah. All that sounded very, very similar to how I would put this, together for stress.
Ilay: Good stress, bad stress. And instead of running away from stress, maybe resilience, and so on, obviously, the the toxic stuff Yeah.
Ilay: About stress also, which we maybe we could remove from our lives. It's the same with food.
Ilay: We shouldn't eat rotten and food and food that has gone bad and so on, because there's too much bad bug there there and so on.
Ilay: Talking about bacteria from the outside and so on.
Ilay: So what would be the, obviously, we did talk about in the, first episode about healthy eating habits What do you think if we wanted to do one change for healthier guts?
Ilay: What would it be?
Izel: Okay. Great question. So I would like to answer it actually from the standpoint of the functional medicine approach.
Izel: I think the first thing is the they have a longer, of course, form of our approach to how to rebalance the gap.
Izel: Yes. Or you just want to optimize your gap. The first step is to remove.
Izel: Want to remove the things that are harming you. okay.
Izel: You cannot now change your all, of course, nutrition from today to tomorrow.
Izel: But, just to have it in my in your mind, the most critical ones, which are the actually, processed foods, ultra processed foods, and the ultra processed sugar foods suites.
Izel: I think these are the things that we can start with to remove from our administration.
Izel: remove doesn't mean that again, to remove loops, totally from day to day.
Izel: But but you can, yeah, just start with that, lower it and also the, it's prospects, I would take them out because they are the most they are the the the things that are damaging our gut mostly.
Ilay: Yeah.
Ilay: So, to ultra processed and processed foods to reduce sugars.
Ilay: As much as possible, especially, in the processed foods that are not natural sugars. And,
Izel: That sounds especially.
Ilay: And, yes, and maybe, palm oil and, What's the others? Bended,
Izel: the oil Tomoli is the canolo. Yeah.
Ilay: Yeah. The sugar causes inflammation and feeds bacteria.
Ilay: And also some other forms of micro bi microorganisms that are not healthy.
Ilay: And the ultra processed foods will make us eat more of them, and then they also have usually, unhealthy stuff causing inflammation and also the oils that we mentioned, we'll have inflammation.
Ilay: One maybe explanation about inflammation and leaky gut, is What's happening on on these linings is when there's inflammation.
Ilay: That means actually just like when you have a swollen ankle, which is acute inflammation, You have swelling.
Ilay: So when there's swelling, there's, like, let's say, water inside.
Ilay: We received the, put and the water pressurizes the tissue, which means the cells of the tissue will have some more extended spaces around them.
Ilay: And that's where the stuff leaks into the system.
Ilay: so the cells actually is called epithelial lining, and those cells which are 1 to 3 layers only in the gut.
Ilay: And when they are kind of push the parts through these spaces, things can go in a lot more.
Ilay: Which causes more inflammation as soon as another vicious cycle.
Ilay: So, physically, what's happening about inflammation and stuff leaking in.
Ilay: Is simply not the space, increasing between the cells.
Izel: Yeah. So, yeah, by the way, if you are sorry, you wanted to continue. Sorry.
Ilay: No. I was just going to make a remark, maybe on because all three will be, again, a lot.
Ilay: Again, in general, when we want to change something, the longest term success comes with small changes.
Ilay: So the one that anyone anyone thinks they could reduce easiest will be the first one to choose probably.
Ilay: Not necessarily the one they are eating the most at this stage to start with if they can do it.
Ilay: Perfect. If not, the one that's easy to reduce will be, a good trial to start with. Yeah.
Izel: Exactly. K. And also on the contrary, if we will talk for the further step from removing what we need, maybe can end.
Izel: Also, nutrition wise, And also it's really connected to our to the, topic of inflammation is that to having, the omega tree acids oils that, coming mostly from the fish products, but, also other sources that is reducing the inflammation.
Izel: Also, you can reduce your inflammation through, like, curcumin, and, other, also ingredients.
Izel: Herbs and, spices. Yeah.
Izel: Like, cinnamon, just adding to your food or drink with those kinds of things, or just having a supplement.
Izel: You don't have to, but you can add as a supplement too.
Izel: That can help reduce the inflammation, help the lining of the guts to recover itself. Yeah.
Izel: I would like to add also one more thing about, like, how we can help our guts to drive again after removing some of the things that the damage, because there's no meaning to add things, like, parallel to the damage we do every day.
Izel: So first, we need to remove and then to add some stuff like we talked about and also, probiotic probiotics which are the good bacterias that we have in the food already, like, the, the sum if you if you, have the the the meat products dispute, use milk products.
Izel: So it can be all good kefir.
Izel: If you're not if you're not, so it can be a miso soup from Japan, or I don't Korea, or you can have kimchi, or you can have sauerkrauts, pickles, that are produced through with the salt and not vinegar, they they have naturally probiotics.
Izel: And also, of course, there are the whole science of probiotic supplements, but, it's not necessarily we have to take it.
Izel: and also foods with the fiber which are the vegetables, fruits, also the, root vegetables.
Izel: So if you get the fibers, These are the foods of your probiotics, your good bacterias.
Izel: So you have to have also their foods in your body in order to that them in order them to thrive in your body and you balance the good bacteria versus the germs and the bad bacteria, viruses, etcetera.
Izel: Is, yeah, is this is this is the call that you picked up at that point?
Ilay: Yeah. it's called prebiotics to have The healthy foods, that you mentioned to support the probiotics, which are the bacteria, which we produce to post Biotix, which are actually what is actually useful for the body.
Ilay: That is absorbed by the body and useful out here. Situation.
Ilay: So one thing, that could be important for people who maybe don't have any gut issues or the internal eating healthy is the use of antibiotics.
Ilay: because antibiotics don't necessarily, heal bad bacteria and choosing them specifically.
Ilay: So they are not specifically, but they have different types of antibiotics. We kill different types of bacteria.
Ilay: But there are always good bacteria in those groups.
Ilay: so even again, if you don't have any issues, if you have to use antibiotics, then it's should be used very selectively, definitely by prescription.
Ilay: then it's a very good idea to go with probiotics and probiotics.
Ilay: At different times, of course, using the, using the antibiotics ideally at least 2 hours, maybe after 6 hours, 6 hours after having done tibiotics and really go on with, probiotics to support the good bacteria in the health and maybe extra support with the probiotics is very, very important.
Izel: Yeah. Okay. Thanks for the reminder. Actually, it's very critical.
Izel: personally, I got a lot of antibiotics when I got when I was the, okay, child.
Izel: And it's also like a vicious cycle of, like, getting frequently sick because of the, maybe poor back there, poor gut health.
Izel: And then getting the antibiotics, and, most of the time, and then it's just putting you in a situation that you you all got help is worse and then you get more frequently sick and then again, antibiotics.
Izel: So this is a generation. I think I'm not the only one, I guess, but, it's still it's was it's really affecting with my immune health and also gut health, which I'm improving in, like, continuously.
Izel: I think even more than 6, 7 years that I'm working on it.
Izel: So it takes time to recover, but at the end of the day, I really feel that I healed my guts.
Izel: Like, I was told, like, when I was, like, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, and I had a lot of, like, ronic issues with my gut.
Izel: I was saying I I think I need to just replace my gut.
Izel: And, actually, if physically, I didn't know that I'm doing it when I'm, like, uh-uh, eating healthy food and having a life with a healthy lifestyle I literally changed my gut microbiome, which is, like, as I said in the beginning, is most of my gut health.
Izel: So I really literally replaced it.
Izel: I, like, 15 years ago, I thought I thought about, like, having, surgery, like, as a joke, Yeah.
Izel: But it's actually, I did it, without having really the knowledge.
Izel: And today, I have it, that I did, in a right way without really knowing what I'm doing in the beginning, then I just started to research and understand and read and then improve my gut health through the, mostly from functional personal management perspective.
Ilay: Talking about doing without really knowing, do you have any comments on gut feeling?
Ilay: Especially in a society where brainpower and IQ is pumped up and praised what's your take on gut feelings?
Izel: great question.
Izel: So gut feeling, is referred to, like, intranial like, with our intuition, which is, like, sort of something really comes from really inside of us, but not really with we don't understand where it comes from because our brain mostly and generally says something else.
Izel: our cognitive mind. So it's really good point because, actually, when I mentioned that, our gut is really strongly connected to our nervous system and our brain and the mental health.
Izel: so the gut is really the center of our, I think, the our emotions and not emotions, but our intuition, how to live the life actually.
Izel: Because from here, we really thrive.
Izel: this is actually was the main idea when I said, for this conversation of us, that I said, this is the gateway.
Izel: and also this is really related to our gut feelings that intuition comes from our really guts and which is really strongly, I think, tuned in, the also in language of English, but also other languages.
Izel: Yeah. Yes. Thank you. There was this
Ilay: one question I was looking at.
Ilay: if there is any possibility to reduce resistance to antibiotics using probiotics one, this is obviously will be a very scientific question, or answer.
Ilay: And I don't know any studies around that, but thinking about the mechanism, I'm guessing not because resistance happens when we use the antibiotics in the low doses.
Or when we skip a lot of, dosages during the day, or if you use it for too short of a time, so the antibiotic cannot even kill the bad bacteria so it's probably reducing the good bacteria, but not able to kill the bad bacteria, and the bad bacteria gets strong against that antibiotics so they don't get
Ilay: killed next time you use the antibiotic.
Ilay: So when you use the probiotics, it's an interaction with the good bacteria, but the antibiotic to bad bacteria relationship doesn't change when you have the probiotics.
Ilay: Even though it might, in general, be useful, not a solution probably to that question, but obviously, I'm just guessing at the stage.
Izel: yeah, I actually, I just wanted to just at least, part of mine, end with two points that I just want to mention.
Izel: First of all, we always talk about how to life style and nutrition is just one of the pillar.
Izel: And we also in this conversation, we talked of the about nutrition as a solution to our gut issues.
Izel: But actually, I think all the lifestyle fact other factors are also having a, role in in our gut health, which it starts with a good sleep, which can be we can rest and we can, lower the inflammation, through our quality sleep.
Izel: And social interaction, our relationship with our with the people around us, it can be toxic.
Izel: It can be very nurturing. Also, which can cause, afterwards also a lot of issues of inflammation in our body through the stress, chronic stress, So, also, exercise, mostly gentle exercises if you really have a high inflammation, because, intense, exercise can also rise the, the inflammation.
Izel: So gentle one would be a good start at least.
Izel: And also, in general, low break, the stress or dealing with stress with resilience, also can help to reduce the inflammation in our body because as stress at the end of today, biologically, physically ends up causing inflammation in our body, with all other sorts of things.
Izel: And the last point, I would like to say, besides the lifestyle, I like to mention the lifestyle because the lifestyle maybe is not really easy to change because change itself is not easy, but this is something that we have have in our hands and not in doctor's hands or the I don't know other people's hands.
Izel: A lifestyle is in our hands.
Izel: So gut health is in our hand to, to recover or to optimize This is one positive, point of it.
Izel: And the second positive point of it, the of the thing that I just wanted to is that when I talked about the germ theory versus host, theory, I really like the hosts theory because germ theory, I think, is like, something defensive and negative and, like, just can you can be afraid of things outside world.
Izel: But as I said, if, as a host, you are a strong and resilient, system, you can, build it through the lifestyle.
Izel: So you don't need to be afraid. You just stand and bacterias comes and goes, yeah, infections can happen.
Izel: You can be, sick, of course, but you can get through it.
Izel: So you don't need to be afraid or you just, I don't know, try to, isolate yourself from the nature just not to touch on bacteria here and virus there and getting, interaction with people, especially in the corona era.
Izel: I don't know. so if you work on yourself and from the standpoint of being a strong host, doesn't matter which, germs are really, visiting you.
Izel: you can be positive and strong from that standpoint.
Ilay: Yeah. One is very victimized and defensive.
Ilay: The other one is taking control and actually feed being like maybe you're leading your life.
Ilay: As as much as you can. It made sense. Very good. Yes.
Ilay: So we learned a lot about our guts.
Ilay: we learned a lot about nutrition before in our previous episodes.
Ilay: We learned about how to approach to eating and and it So let's see what next week we bring.
Ilay: I'm looking forward to it. Any last words?
Izel: No.
Izel: Actually, if you have, I don't know, specific questions, of course, we are here to answer.
Izel: And if not now, you can also send us email, or not emails through Instagram, a core act account, and you can just, send us your questions or also feedbacks we would like to, improve, of course, our live streams.
Izel: And so we will be happy to get, feedbacks in general and also specific questions, about this conversation, of the gut, which is for me, always fascinating.
Izel: And also it's just always improving, and we are learning new things, every year, every time.
Izel: Thank you for yes. Thank you, Stephanie. You're, yeah, kind words also.
Ilay: Also, if you have any comments or suggestion for other topics about healthy lifestyle or any challenges you're having, things that you want to change, we could have them as topic in the in the future, so we're happy to, know those.
Ilay: And, yeah, and if you wanted the pdfs for the last episodes.
Ilay: are we having any PDF this week? I don't. Yeah. Okay.
Ilay: So that's good. So for this week and also the previous weeks, if you wanted a summary and the main pay main points, PDFs, you can see in our, link in bio, and, that will be delivered to you.
Izel: Yeah. Thanks a lot.
Ilay: Perfect. Thank you very much. It was very enjoyable. and take care.
Izel: Yeah. Everyone.
Ilay: Bye bye, everyone.
